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Missing HB · Jan 03, 2012, 05:19 PM // 17:19

I think it's quite obvious to say that snowball tournaments made PvP active for a few weeks, but now it's going to be back to inactivity for very long time...

I think we should have snowball tournaments longer or permanent for many obvious reasons :

- everyone can participate easily(no tokens required) and it's fun, less skill required than in GvG
- the reward is good and these are not very long At's
- it would be an other way of earning reward points aside of GvG, which are usually too long and not populated( we can honestly say that if there are many inexperienced guilds registered, good ones will do register on purpose to farm them....)
- something is needed in PvP at the moment, there's really nothing to do apart of watching people syncing..

A Few questions are going to be asked probably :
- There are too many henchways... : well, yes but they're still giving easy wins if you face them and anyway, there are as well too many forfeiters in GvG At's wasting time..
- There are too many botters.... : people do bot and sync in the Whole PvP anyway, it wouldn't do a lot i think
- The reward is too high: that's the only problem maybe, it would have to be lowered down a bit to a maximum of 200 instead of 350( GvG At's are rewarding less than 100 rps usually....)
- People play those because it only lasts 2 weeks : wrong, due to fun format, good reward( even if lowered) , and inactivity in whole PvP and easy access, it would surely be full at any time
- It's wintersday spirit... : sure, but something easy to do is needed to fix inactivity in PvP...

I think it would be an alternative way to have something to do in PvP( 3 times a day) and it wouldn't cost them a lot since the code is already there, plus many would be happy..
Waiting comments

Olle · Jan 03, 2012, 05:22 PM // 17:22

Sure its fun now, but people will leave it for normal gvg after a while, and it will be emptied out within a few months.

/signed anyway, for teh lulz

Fluffy Kittens · Jan 03, 2012, 05:25 PM // 17:25

make rewards bit lower and keep it at least until dies it just like gvg tourneys did
/signed x10000

Spiritz · Jan 03, 2012, 06:51 PM // 18:51

As soon as ppl grow bored of it then it would die - PvP itself is different as builds can be changed but having same builds ( or almost same ) all the time will get boring .. no wait that sounds like codex and you can see how well thats doing.

Snow tourney over xmas may have brought ppl in but you can see why - its only on a set time of the year which gets ppl in.24/7 all year would mean an even bigger hole in PvP - also dont forget a big chunk of players doing it are usually students who come on for the hols then vanish.

hitsuji182 · Jan 03, 2012, 07:36 PM // 19:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiritz

As soon as ppl grow bored of it then it would die - PvP itself is different as builds can be changed but having same builds ( or almost same ) all the time will get boring .. no wait that sounds like codex and you can see how well thats doing.

Snow tourney over xmas may have brought ppl in but you can see why - its only on a set time of the year which gets ppl in.24/7 all year would mean an even bigger hole in PvP - also dont forget a big chunk of players doing it are usually students who come on for the hols then vanish.

I'm 100% sure Snowball Tournaments wouldn't die if they were permanent. It's by far the most fun, active and accessible PvP format in Guild Wars. It's very easy to learn, everyone uses same builds, objective is always the same - this is why there are lots of guilds participating.

Let's compare snowballs with other PvP formats:
GvG is still to hardcore for average guild, also population is on decline
HA died months ago, barrier in form of hero rank
Codex - lol
RA - jump in, play one round and leave

At the moment my guild is bereaved. We had so much fun playing together this Wintersday, just like 2 and 3 years ago (and when we've been playing HA) and now we are very very sad to realize we have to go inacvitve for months, cuz GW isn't offering anything similar to snowballs experience.

I know lots of polish guilds which reactivated for this event, just like us, and now share same fate.

So...

Please ANet, give us snowballs, you don't lose anything!!

All you have to do is to lower rewards and that's all!

Leman · Jan 03, 2012, 07:44 PM // 19:44

I approve this initiative.

/signed

Edit: New FLUX GG.

papryk · Jan 03, 2012, 07:47 PM // 19:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by hitsuji182

I'm 100% sure Snowball Tournaments wouldn't die if they were permanent. It's by far the most fun, active and accessible PvP format in Guild Wars. It's very easy to learn, everyone uses same builds, objective is always the same - this is why there are lots of guilds participating.

Let's compare snowballs with other PvP formats:
GvG is still to hardcore for average guild, also population is on decline
HA died months ago, barrier in form of hero rank
Codex - lol
RA - jump in, play one round and leave

At the moment my guild is bereaved. We had so much fun playing together this Wintersday, just like 2 and 3 years ago (and when we've been playing HA) and now we are very very sad to realize we have to go inacvitve for months, cuz GW isn't offering anything similar to snowballs experience.

I know lots of polish guilds which reactivated for this event, just like us, and now share same fate.

So...

Please ANet, give us snowballs, you don't lose anything!!

All you have to do is to lower rewards and that's all!

+1

give snowballz back plox

big man · Jan 03, 2012, 08:09 PM // 20:09

With rewards slightly lowered /signed

Olle · Jan 03, 2012, 08:10 PM // 20:10

With the current Flux, i have no clue how a match would look like.

Leman · Jan 03, 2012, 08:13 PM // 20:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Olle

With the current Flux, i have no clue how a match would look like.

New flux counters this topic.

jcegt87 · Jan 03, 2012, 08:15 PM // 20:15

sure lets bring it permanently, while their at it lets bring Wintersday and canthan new year all year round, since it brings people back >.>

/notsigned

*lemming* · Jan 03, 2012, 08:51 PM // 20:51

There was a time when GvG daily ATs were several times more popular than they are these days.

I'm not talking about some storied time when "the game was alive," I'm talking about when the rewards for AT completion were so high that you had dozens of afk guilds piling into every single one.

Would snowball ATs really be as popular if all the competent guilds were in one group? Would people really still want to play it casually if they would be going 2-4 instead of 4-2?

Fluffy Kittens · Jan 03, 2012, 10:55 PM // 22:55

Making rewards 1/2 would be fine, they would still be kinda high. My suggestion would be just to keep it until it dies like gvg tourneys died. Almost each snowball tourney had 2 or 3 groups, I think it clearly shows that people really did enjoy it. It really wouldn't be a problem at all to just remove it if it becomes abused or dead or whatever but this just makes no sense, to remove it when it's so popular... sigh

LanaDarkess · Jan 03, 2012, 11:12 PM // 23:12

I do believe that this has been suggested numerous times already.

Why have it all year round? Players would eventually get bored with it and move on anyway. Having it one time a year makes it special, something to look forward to.

/notsigned

CE Devilman · Jan 03, 2012, 11:23 PM // 23:23

sure why not ..a stack of keys will not hurt anyone.....right

headlesshobbs · Jan 03, 2012, 11:48 PM // 23:48

I wouldn't mind if they made some form of snowball pvp to help cover the winter season lasting thru Jan-Mar. In fact they should at least keep the snow after events are over.

Leman · Jan 04, 2012, 12:04 AM // 00:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by LanaDarkess

I do believe that this has been suggested numerous times already.

Why have it all year round? Players would eventually get bored with it and move on anyway. Having it one time a year makes it special, something to look forward to.

/notsigned

First of all, because it was most probably the last Wintersday (not counting the July joke) before GW2.

Is it really good to just delete Snowballs and make all these tourny players go play other games for the next 12 months until the next Wintersday which is basically equal to never? Wouldn't it be better to hold it and let them have some fun before this game totally dies?

i farm baddies · Jan 04, 2012, 01:01 AM // 01:01

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rezz Anna Nicole

Making rewards 1/2 would be fine, they would still be kinda high. My suggestion would be just to keep it until it dies like gvg tourneys died. Almost each snowball tourney had 2 or 3 groups, I think it clearly shows that people really did enjoy it. It really wouldn't be a problem at all to just remove it if it becomes abused or dead or whatever but this just makes no sense, to remove it when it's so popular... sigh

it basically showed the guild wars population realizes you can make a lot of zkeys for minimal work. atleast half the guilds in those AT's were afk guilds lol. mine included, and why not? i made a stack of zkeys every tournament...

hitsuji182 · Jan 04, 2012, 01:09 AM // 01:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by i farm baddies

it basically showed the guild wars population realizes you can make a lot of zkeys for minimal work. atleast half the guilds in those AT's were afk guilds lol. mine included, and why not? i made a stack of zkeys every tournament...

farming zkeys was a good argument 2 years ago, now it just doesn't matter. I have a fortune and I have no idea what to do with it. I play for fun, simple as that. And I can tell you most of top/active snowball guilds also don't care about making money in this game, because players achieved everything they wanted long time ago. Even if winning sAT granted 50rp, I would still play daily.

Odin Bloodknight · Jan 04, 2012, 01:45 AM // 01:45

Give us the snowballs!

(Also Dragon Arena ATs >.>)